Can someone give an example of an app that doesn’t work? I always hear about apps that do work, but is it mostly banking or some other category that doesn’t work typically?
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Like you said, banking apps. The logic behind that is they use google to security check their apps. A random non-bank example would be the slick deals app. Without play services it would just open then crash.
Many apps use play services for their notification system. So for instance, proton mail works fine but notifications do not.
NFC is not supported, so anything that uses that won't work.
Not an app, but I was surprised that widgets don't work unless you're in the primary profile. Technically they work on any profile, but they randomly get deleted, and frequently. It's a known bug that probably will never get fixed because the source of it comes from stock android.
I will mention that you can have a profile running play services, which gives you access to many apps that wouldnt normally work. And it's sandboxed so it has less impact on your information (I don't know all the specifics but it does limit in some way how much it can snoop into the rest of the OS). Then you can also set up granular controls on your apps to limit them from snooping.
Thanks! I don’t think this will work for me. Where I live, most of the payments are made directly through banking apps by scanning a qr-code.
Anything that uses NFC payments.
Some banking apps allegedly don't work but i have never encountered one. If your bank has a mobile accessible website, it's basically a non-issue.
Random applications that use the play integrity API won’t work on any third party OSes or ROMs. For example I tried to install some Intuit app on my GOS Pixel a while back (credit karma I think?) and it didn’t work at all
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No problems 😄
Does android auto work? Last I herd it did not...
It does
Neat.
Well, now I know what my next phone is. Does it work on the latest Pixel or does it have to be a previous version?
It does work on the Pixel 9 Generation and even on the Pixel Fold 9 and Pixel Tab.
Thanks!
I have the 8 Pro, and my wife has the 7 Pro, so I can confirm it works on those. No idea on the latest generation, but it's likely that it works too.
For how long will the older pixel phones be supported? Is it worth it to buy a cheaper older model like pixel 6 and have graphene in it?
Cause I'm not giving more than 200-300 for a phone. I'll stick to cheap android phones that lack nothing compared to expensive phones for my needs.
https://endoflife.date/pixel This is for googles support. GOS may support a specific device a little longer than google but does not promise to and recomends getting a newer device.
Pixel 8a looks real good right now.
Wait what do the android updates have to do with Graphene? Does the phone need to still be supported by Google and android for Graphene to be secure and work?
Yes. Many security updates come from upstream AOSP and then are put into GOS.
So when a device has stopped getting AOSP updates, it is unreasonable for GOS to continue support it. They can and I believe they have applied more critical security patches to just barely EOL devices, but this isn't promised or expected.
They could just apply the patches they do have like the main android ones. I think that is BS personally
Graphene stops shipping any updates after the Google deadline
5a is EoL so no headphone jack for you. This is a nonstarter for portable devices to me.
They have a list of dates on their FAQ for different devices. It sounds like you may get a few more years beyond when Google cuts off official support. https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime
NFC payments also don't work. Non-starter for me
Is it because of your particular bank or is that a general problem?
google wallet in general will not work.
also bank apps utilizing NFC is not a thing in the US
Ah yes, a feature that I'd never be able to live without /s
The university that I'm at is trying to get new students to use a digital student id that uses google wallet for scanning I think. They aren't giving any new students physical student id's unless they need it for something that doesn't work with the digital ones.
So yeah some people do need google wallet.
Cal state northridge?
Google Wallet works though. It's just NFC and credit card payments that don't. If you can add tickets and passes with barcodes, student ID will work.
The student id's use nfc here. Nothing to scan.
Why not? You van set up a separate profile and install gplay services so pretty much anything would work under these conditions I assume