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Tesla knew Autopilot caused death, but didn't fix it::Software's alleged inability to handle cross traffic central to court battle after two road deaths

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember reading about the ethical question about the hypothetical self driving car that loses control and can choose to either turn left and kill a child, turn right and kill a crowd of old people, or do nothing and hit a wall, killing the driver. It's a question that doesn't have a right answer, but it must be answered by anybody implementing a self driving car.

I non-sarcastically feel like Tesla would implement this system by trying to see which option kills the least number of paying Xitter subscribers.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile hundreds of people are killed in auto accidents every single day in the US. Even if a self driving car is 1000x safer than a human driver there will still be accidents as long as other humans are also sharing the same road.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course not. Fixing it would cost money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Pinto

The other day I said on here that self driving cars arent ready and got downvoted to fuck. This is why I said it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://www.wardsauto.com/blog/my-somewhat-begrudging-apology-ford-pinto

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-02-10-mn-1335-story.html

Two examples of the media creating a frenzy that wound up being proven completely false later.

In OP's case, both of these drivers failed to see a semi crossing the road right in front of them even though they were sitting in the driver's seat with their hands on the wheel. This technology certainly needs improvement, but this is like blaming every auto manufacturer when someone crashes their car while texting on their phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I feel like some people are such Tesla fanboys that they will argue when I say Tesla FSD is not real and never has been.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't, or couldn't? Tesla uses a vastly inferior technology to run their "automated" driving protocols. It's a hardware problem first and foremost.

It's like trying to drive a car with a 720p resolution camera mounted on the license plate holder versus a 4k monitor on the top of the car. That's not a perfect analogy, but it's close enough for those not aware of how cheap these cars and their tech really is.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It remains to be seen what hardware is required for autonomous driving as no company has a fully functioning system, so there is no baseline to compare to. Cruise (the "4k monitor" in your anaology) just had to cut their fleet of geofenced vehicles after back to back crashes involving emergency vehicles along with blocking traffic and attempting to run over things like fire hoses.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

driving as no company has a fully functioning

Mercedes made level 4.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's like three comments in here talking about the technology, everyone else is arguing about names like people are magically absolved of personal responsibilities when they believe advertising over common sense.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Because the tech has inarguably failed. It's all about the lawyers and how long they can extend Tesla's irresponsibility.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

It's time to give up the Tesla FSD dream. I loved the idea of it when it came out, and believed it would get better over time. FSD simply hasn't. Worse, Musk has either fired or lost all the engineering talent Telsa had. FSD is only going to get worse from here and it's time to put a stop to it.