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[–] [email protected] 193 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (14 children)

This bullshit was basically my first experience with Windows 11 when I got a new PC last year. Literally, "Why is my internet so slow? What's this OneDrive thing? Oh, holy shit fucking stop Jesus Christ!"

Just automatically started uploading everything on my hard drive to an account I didn't set up, without even a prompt telling me it was happening, and no obvious way to make it stop. I didn't even know Windows had added a cloud storage option. I actually had to completely uninstall OneDrive to finally make it stop.

I might have liked having a native backup service in Windows if it was like, "Hey look at this handy cloud storage tool we've added to Windows! Would you like to pick some files to save?" But as it is, it might as well just be another piece of spyware.

There's a big long list of reasons why I hate Windows 11, but this OneDrive shit is the thing that's making me think maybe it's time to ditch Windows for good.

[–] [email protected] 130 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The extra fun part is when it starts bitching at you for filling up the cloud storage allotment that you didn't know you were using.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Or when it actually deleted the local files once it uploaded them to one drive. Fun times.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago

Or the fact that once it's off of your hard drive and sitting comfortably on their cloud (their hard drive), they can scan it and harvest it for data.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago

Thankfully I noticed what was going on before it got to that point, but when they start vacuuming up all your files and data like that without telling you and without giving you control over it, you kind of have to assume that whatever is going on is not being done for your benefit.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The extra extra fun part is to then offer you the opportunity to pay for bigger storage!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The cherry on top, you can't say no. You can only tell them to “ask you later”.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (3 children)

What’s the big deal? Microsoft security is top notch. They totally didn’t get p0vvN3d by russia basically twenty minutes ago and have their source code stolen.

It’s why the US gummit is so happy to use micro$quash services.

And y’know even then, who cares if all your data is stolen by state-sponsored cyber crime groups, y’know? M$ has spared no expense to ensure all that data is secured end-to-end with unbreakable encryption even microsoft can’t read! (snkk) Even if they wanted to!

It’s not like they’ve tricked everyone into being data cattle for their giant cloud-ranching operation, to shovel everything into AI and sell the results to anyone at the highest price possible. I mean. We’d have heard something about that if it was the case.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Mean while on windows 10, they are forcing updates with a creepy splash screen when you boot up. Can't exit, can't stop it, basically held hostage. This was on my old surface pro 4. Then the update screwsed everything up and I had to do a system restore....shits bad 👎

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[–] [email protected] 139 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I once turned that feature on thinking it was an actual backup (copies of my files in the cloud), I remember how angry I was when I found out it wasn't a backup after all and just removed your files from your computer and only made them accessible online.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (4 children)

You're supposed to uncheck the save storage space and download files as you use them option.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 6 months ago

You’re supposed to remove windows

[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the classic Microsoft "what you really want is hidden behind a checkbox, otherwise you'll get shit".

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 6 months ago (2 children)

First recall, then getting rid of local accounts, and now this.

Might shift back to Linux now.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What would be the final straw

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"By involuntarily uploading your data to onedrive you also agree for it to be used in training AI models"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Checkmate, consumer.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft is getting desperate to steal your IP so they can train their AI.

Can someone sue the living shit out of them and start setting precedents please and thanks.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

Can someone sue the living shit out of them

Nope. All in terms of agreement.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (5 children)

IANAL and could be wrong, but it is not the case that the T’s&C’s we all have to agree to aren’t necessarily legally binding, because people can’t be expected to read and understand them all.

With that in mind, it doesn’t matter what the user agrees to if they have no practical alternative available to them.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 months ago (6 children)

The c-levels are really sick of all these new features they're adding and no one is using them because of silly reasons like "they don't work good" or "I can't even see the point of this for me".

In their wisdom, they've taken the option to say no away from the users. Now they have a much easier time justifying their bonus this year, just look at how many users are using their new features!

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago (4 children)

This has to be a massive GDPR violation?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 months ago (20 children)

bullshit like this is getting worse and worse and is why i moved away from windows.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Same. They've always done this shit, but installing windows - and then uninstalling or disabling all the cooked-in bloat and spyware - has become so ridiculously tiresome that I just said fuck it and went Linux full-time.

Every update or service pack, it starts all over. There's no such thing as a clean windows install.

Nobara was up and running in like ten minutes with no fuckery at all, and it's no nice not having to fight my OS on everything.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Just a heads up, Windows 11 IoT LTSC is out, and it has none of M$'s bullshit you read about weekly. It can be tricky to find the .iso, so it would be a real shame if people wasted their time looking for it @ massgrave.dev

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's somehow even trickier to find a list of differences between them and regular win 11.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

It's probably hard to keep up with lol. I'll try my best. It has Edge and Defender ONLY. No cortana, copilot, recall, candy crush bloat or anything similar, .net, vcredist, edgeview/runtime, TPM requirement, online account, secure boot, store, xbox, one drive, winget, nor widgets.

You finish the install and it is BARE. All I do post install is, in regex and gpedit, turn off telemetry.

For my use, Steam installs all the .net and vcredist as needed.

Store and Xbox and the like are available to install via power shell or downloads, but fair warning. Once you do store or M$ account sign in, copilot and recall might find a way to sneak in via updates. None of them work, and error out when you open them, but the fact they install and exist makes me uneasy.

Edit: If you don't even want Defender, nor Edge, look up Windows X-Lite. That man is a wizard at figuring out the bare minimum needed for an .iso.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Phase one: force everyone's data into their OneDrive account. OneDrive now at capacity, you must upgrade to ensure all your data is backed up and retained.

Phase two: MS secretly (or not so secretly) use all this data to train copilot.

Human generated content to feed into ai systems is the new good rush

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago (5 children)

How to speed run your entire user base into hating you.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (2 children)

For starters, bulk copying a person's documents without their approval sounds like mass copyright violation.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (22 children)

windows 11 has a onedrive sync service that is almost impossible to disable even with group policy and all that.

I tried to make a clean image of the OS that could be booted from the network. never again.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (1 children)

also these idiots made onedrive folders mimic the original documents folder, also setting default to onedrive folder, so when i search for the downloaded content in my profile, documents i just WTF as its empty...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

I hate this so much. I save as a new file for a new version. I expect it to go into the same folder by default like the file i currently opened and worked on. Nope, onedrive it is if you aren't careful.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (4 children)

At this point, Microsoft is becoming an advertisement for Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago

Microsoft Data Theft as a Service

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

Had this happen to me some time ago. I hated it so much.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (6 children)

So, yeah. What's a good Linux distro for stable diffusion and programming?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

It just comes down to personal preference. Mint is usually recommended as a good starting point.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Win10 ending, copilot and this shit. Finally pushed me over. Going to order a new ssd and install mint on my main rig.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I just turned it off as it kept bitching about the storage being full.

I don't need you bish, fuck off.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So how many Windows refugees will end up fleeing to the Kingdom of Torvalds?

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