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Next year Windows 10 goes End of Life. Microsoft will undoubtedly push windows 11 hard, but a lot of machines won’t support it leading to a few economic points of interest:

The demand for new machines will be high, driving up cost.

The supply of unsupported machines will be high, driving down the used market.

Are you all ready?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lmao, I've been ready since 7 reached the theoretical end of life.

Air gap 7, use Linux on everything else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Windows 7 will maybe work for a while.

There's going to be a point where new Windows software won't run on Windows 7, though.

Freezing the OS is one thing, but freezing the application library is another.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Heh, I only keep it for a limited use case. I have backups of the software, so I'm good until win7 won't run on new hardware.

No need for any updates when what I use works perfectly for me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

music producer?

I've heard of some buying bulk macbooks and cloning their drives because knowing your workflow is the most important thing.

Atari Teenage Riot's music is still produced on an Atari ST.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Just using 10 LTSC which has updates until 2032 iirc. I would switch to Linux but my simracing hardware doesn't play nice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

simracing hardware

Hmm. Like, pedals, throttle, steering wheel? That was an issue many years back, but most of that supports USB HID these days. Like, OSes don't normally need hardware-specific drivers or anything.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Unfortunately, that's really not true for most sim racing hardware. Lower-end Logitech and Thrustmaster stuff usually works fine, but you're pretty much screwed once you go beyond that.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I thought that was only the IoT version that had support til 2032

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

use win11 at work, dont like it much. when win10 hits EoL I'll dither for a year or so before switching over to mint or some other distro full time

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I've switched to W11 on my main rig, since Linux doesn't have the sort of compatibility that I can rely on for my work. I installed explorer patcher to restore W10 start menu, task bar, and right click menu. I combed through the settings to deactivate all the data collection settings.

On my laptop, I dual boot W11 and KDE Neon.

It's the best that I can do given the circumstances

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I have decided to install Debian on the one Windows 10 PC I have

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Cheap good win10 systems, yum. I m ready

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Debian + KDE Plasma is all you need. Saying goodbye to Microsoft and their predatory, horrible software is an absolute win.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I used to take pride in that I could fully set up, configure, secure, minimally provision (with software) and neuter the more egregious aspects of Vista/7/8/8.1 within a 16hr time frame.

With Windows 10 this increased to 20 hours, and with my own Windows 11 install I am currently clocking in at 24hrs - three whole work days. The last day of which is spent in the Registry and doing multiple reboots to ensure the new UI fuckery has been appropriately castrated.

I have a handful of programs, both current and vintage, that are either inadequately or completely unable to be serviced by Wine. With that said, I am now down to only two rigs on Windows, the remainder being various flavours of Linux or BSD.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

iirc, Microsoft had some significant investment in Intel.

this is perfectly rational monopolist-cartel-protecting-monopolist-cartel behavior.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=microsoft%27s+investment+in+intel&t=fpas&ia=web

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

My job in the a non technical field relies on a laptop to run a label printer, the laptop is ancient and I already had to install revOS on it so that printing labels isn't horribly bogged down waiting on the laptop to load the simple printer program. Is there anyway that proton would be able to run that program? Probably not because of all lack of driver support, if anyone has any ideas I'm all ear, even just pointing me in a direction would be appreciated!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Proton is really a WINE fork intended specifically for Steam games. Most of the changes in it target games. You may hear a lot about Proton having good compatibility because, historically, games were where WINE tended to have compatibility issues, and Valve put a lot of work into fixing that, so it's more that Proton just improved the situation specifically for games a lot recently.

WINE might be able to run the program, would be what I'd try rather than Proton. You can technically run Proton without Steam, but it's not really designed for that.

Or you might be able to run a Windows VM on newer hardware and run it on that, would be my fallback attempt. Less seamless than just having a Windows program open a window alongside Linux ones, but sometimes that can work if WINE can't do it.

I'd see if Linux can recognize the label printer, if this is a really ancient printer. That'd be my first step. Then look into having Windows apps print to said printer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Shit lol, I meant wine, I personally use proton for steam so it's stuck in my brain first. Also it's not so much that it's ancient but that it's a commercial printer not really marketeted to the public, but I'll give running the computer on Linux a shot with wine maybe a Linux miracle will happen.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Mine's been "dead" for near 5 years now and its still chuggin along as an arcade/jukebox/dvdplayer

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I should probably look into why my absolute beast of a machine apparently isn't compatible with W11. I've just been ignoring it forever.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

They're requiring an unnecessary new piece of hardware in order to force more computer sales. Exactly why Microsoft is interested in forcing more hardware sales, I'm not entirely sure. The hardware in question is some kind of encryption thingy, but it doesn't offer any real benefits beyond just changing where the fundamental layer of trust is for the encryption in your computer.

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