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White House urges developers to dump C and C++ (www.infoworld.com)

submitted 8 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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White House urges developers to dump C and C++::Biden administration calls for developers to embrace memory-safe programing languages and move away from those that cause buffer overflows and other memory access vulnerabilities.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

sad stroustroup noises

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I'm like absolutely convinced Rust is the shit!

[+] [email protected] -6 points 8 months ago (5 children)

C is not the problem, it's sloppy "programmers" who cannot handle direct memory control and who do not understand the underlying system architecture and how a microprocessor operates. People who are good at writing C can make code just as safe as the safest Rust code.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If you're an expert tightrope walker, you're likely not gonna fall off. You can just do it without too much issue. When you're doing it over a chasm, and you don't plan on dying, you'd still probably prefer a harness though, wouldn't you?

Edit: I'm not saying C is a bad language or anything, but for important applications the safety of actually memory safe languages is vital for lower-skilled programmers and still a good assistance for higher-skilled programmers, as we're all humans and it doesn't hurt to try and avoid the mistakes we will eventually make.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'll say it. C is a bad language. There was a time when it needed needed to exist and using it was a smart choice, but it has outlived its usefulness for anything but legacy code and niche use cases like FFI. It's in essentially the same category as Cobol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

The bad language that all successor languages copied?

Edit: spell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Did you mean predecessor, like the languages that came before it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Fuck I meant successor

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It wasn't bad at the time relative to what else was around.

And I don't even know what you're getting at by saying "all" successor languages copied it. Are you referring to how many languages use curly braces as block delimiters? Because that's not what's wrong with C.

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