Food for thought: Lemmy instance admins probably can’t afford $800 an hour corporate attorneys to fight off subpoenas.
this post was submitted on 10 Feb 2024
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Food for though: In the US judges have ruled on multiple occasions that an IP address doesn't actually prove what individual engaged in the act.
Might I direct you to the huge flaming catastrophe of bullshit known as "the police don't give a fuck lol". All they need to do is make it difficult, costly and time consuming to win and fuck you once you get hit with charges. And would you look at that, the US legal system specializes in all 3 of those! How convenient.
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Doesn’t matter, these are unpaid volunteers standing up instances. Most, if not all, have no desire to fight that battle on their own dime.
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Sure, but that's assuming the logs contain your ip in the first place.
And this is why you VPN.
MFW I went to upvote but couldn't because "error: VPN blocked" 😑
Huh, I exclusively browse Lemmy through a VPN and I've never seen that one.
He's probably talking about reddit They no longer allow vpn's or any user obfuscators to browse the site
No they don't. I use the site with a VPN often and it generally works
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That doesn't help instance admins at all, though.
It helps admins help you stay anonymous by relieving them from having to cover for you.
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Oops, I accidentally fired the sd card containing my instance running on my raspberry pie.
If that is really how you do it, you won't need to fry it, it will happen soon enough by itself.
Seriously. Lemmy is a house made of patchwork quilt, with a bit of pine sap here and there to steady the few boards.
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Would be a real shame if my instance's logrotate was set to, say, only keep a few days of webserver logs. Real shame.
Good luck establishing precedent with that!
Oh. They sued an instance? 😱
Anyway... here's another 5 hosted in Russia, or a country where piracy is legal, or just don't give a fuck.
ok but what if in losing the suit, they must give up the logs and IPs?
Before they go under?
like the instance and the people that discussed piracy will be hurt
and it will put fear in others
Not all instances keep logs...
Some intentionally discard them, look into the policys of the instance you're signing up to.
All your comments and posts are hosted on your parent instance then shared to the federated instances.
Some instances don't even let you sign up with an email or make it optional.
Lemmy.world keeps logs, but much more controversial instances often don't.
Also it's much more complex, because you have to think about the scope of the potential lawsuit as well as the given evidence that a user is actually sharing the material infringing on their copyright; which will not be a large amount of the user base. They can't simply sue a user for having an account, the user has to actively be sharing infringing material.
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I was going to download their movies to spite them, but looking it up they've only produced complete trash.
Sorry, you're going to have to be just a little more specific here, I'm wading in a sea of garbage over here
I am so conflicted on which side should I be on :/
A rough translation of a brazilian quote for you: "In a fight between these guys, I cheer for the fight".
I'm gonna say this all the time now
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How is it hard to root for the anonymity of people? This is pretty cut-and-dry.
If the film industry wins that could be a really awful precedent. Just sayin'
You don't have to (and shouldn't) side with any for profit company
I'm glad Reddit won here because it sets a precedent that will protect less well-funded Lemmy instances.
Ever?
Small exception for when two for profit companies are fighting each other. At that point it becomes a question of which is the lesser evil.
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If you think reddit is on your side, think again.
Reddit can eat my ass with a spoon
Exactly, but it's still a helpful win regardless.
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Firms wanted seven years' worth of IP address logs
I doubt - or hope they don't - Reddit stores them for that long?
It's data that could have value, so I doubt they don't store it. I think the movie studios didn't offer enough. Or Reddit thought it was too damaging for this particular sale.
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Le reddit wins legain, m'fellows!
You'll never narwhal my bacon, see!
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For real tough, Steve can suck diseased dicks in hell.
What is reddit?
An instance with poor interoperability and boot licker admins.
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