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[–] [email protected] 127 points 7 months ago (68 children)

Some products — like devices powered by combustion engines, medical equipment, farming equipment, HVAC equipment, video game consoles, and energy storage systems — are excluded from Oregon’s rules entirely.

It's interesting to me that Game Consoles get an exception... Not sure whats up there, other than straight up ~~bribery~~ lobbying.

HVAC makes sense when you consider environmental concerns (some refrigerants are really terrible pollutants).

Medical equipment, particularly equipment in public health care should be held to high standards. Authorized, properly trained repair; peoples lives depend on it.

Energy storage when attached to public infrastructure (you back-feeding the grid) can be a saftey concern for workers and the supply/load needs to be balanced to prevent damaging that infrastructure and other private equipment attached to it. Not sure preventing repair is the right move here; you can still buy and install new without oversight. Perhaps it's again a saftey concern (for the person performing repair).

Vehicles, farming or otherwise, I'm on the fence about; there's an argument to be made for public saftey/roadworthness, but I'm not sure that's enough of an argument to prevent home-repair. Again seems more to do with lobbying than anything else.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (25 children)

There's no excuses for any of these. None.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (24 children)

That's rather short sighted. I just listed several.

Don't know about you: I'd rather not have the ventilator keeping grandma alive repaired by the hospitals underpaid maintenance department; but a trained technician from the company that built it.

Some things are about more than just an individuals personal liberties.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The hospitals underpaid maintenance team vrs a licensed tech from the manufacturer is a false dichotomy. The choice could easily be the hospital's underpaid maintenance team or no repairs at all.

Realistically, they don't put grandma on the vent because they won't buy or keep a device they can't afford to repair.

And why would the company spend more time/effort on their repair staff than the hospital? The company license is no guarantee they aren't minimum wage nobodies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thing is, medical equipment suppliers should be held to higher standards than they are currently. If you're providing medical equipment to be used in public healthcare: you should be responsible for maintaining and repairing it imo.

There should be a minimum requirement for repair/maintenance/warranty provided by the manufacturer.

Hospitals don't invest in the ability to perform such repairs largely because of the liability involved, ontop of often being a poorly funded/staffed public service.

The company license is no guarantee they aren't minimum wage nobodies.

No, but then the manufacturer is responsible for the quality of repair/maintenance performed by its staff.

If something goes wrong with the equipment; it's on the equipment manufacturer instead of the hospital using it.

With a mandate on repair/maintenance; they'd be forced to provide quality service to survive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Everything you just said applies to hospitals as well.

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