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[–] [email protected] 216 points 7 months ago (31 children)

The amount of credit people give Steve Jobs is such a kick to the nuts to all the engineers that designed those products

[–] [email protected] 63 points 7 months ago (11 children)

Jobs basically had one job - be the screaming obnoxious asshole in charge who harangued the engineers until they came up with something to his liking. And then took the credit when they did. Basically just the Elon Musk of his day.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Except I can look at Jobs' history and see an actual progression in technology. With Musk there is literally nothing but nonsensical hyped up promises.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I think we can give Musk credit for progressing technology - electric cars & space rocketry and some other things. But he is also an incredible asshole, has little regard for the people who work for him, has no inner filter and has some incredibly stupid hot takes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Except he didn't. Jobs progressed technology by essentially bullying engineers into making it a reality. Musk didn't even put that effort in. He bought companies that were already doing these things

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I think that is disingenuous. It's clear Musk has been a driving force in Tesla and to a lesser extent in SpaceX and Starlink. And while I hate the guy with a passion and think he is a massive prick who is an awful boss and who takes credit for other's work, I have no doubt that if not for him EVs wouldn't be a mainstream technology they are today. Just like with Apple and smart phones, Tesla did not invent the electric car but they made the first cars people actually wanted to buy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Gwynne Shotwell deserves quite a lot more credit for SpaceX than Musk. Someone has to keep the place running until the ketamine clears his system.

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