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[–] [email protected] 141 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (54 children)

As much as I loathe m$, the one thing they got right was forcing casual users (windows home) to install security updates as top priority, whether they like it or not. I know we all hate on windows, and rightly so, but that policy does nullify this particular vector and that is great for the consumer-level users.

(... for the sake of argument lets just pretend windows doesnt have 10,000 other vulns the malware devs can just exploit instead)

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (32 children)

I mean, I don't think I would mind forced updates if they didn't take so damned long and fail half the time. And then, just when you think you've finished installing all updates, you reboot and there's more updates! Why can't they just install it all at once?

Plus, after each major update, Microsoft wastes your time by advertising to you about Edge, Office 365, and OneDrive before they even let you get back into the desktop.

Forced security updates is addressing a symptom but not addressing the root cause, which is that the Windows update process is just painful for a myriad of reasons. In Linux, I run one command, wait 5 minutes, reboot, and I am back to work.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I love that on my arch setup, I update every single day, usually more than once, and doing so almost never requires me to powercycle my computer.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There is occasional weirdness if you don't powercycle though. In particular, certain KDE updates will make the desktop misbehave until you reboot. I get where you're coming from though. Quick updates and the ability to decide when you want to restart means that I have no qualms about updating frequently.

I am on Arch too and pacman -Syu is usually a snack I have with my morning tea.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

If the desktop misbehaves, just restart the desktop (log out and in again)?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can log out, then CTRL + ALT + F1 , log in and run the update command. If there was no kernel update, you don’t have to reboot. If some service got updated restart the service (if that was not done by the updater.) Then you can switch back to the graphical session usually by CTRL + ALT + F7) and log in again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Problem with this is that it's really hard to figure out whether some update to some minor library is going to affect an application. Sometimes you don't even know which applications are using that library.

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