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[–] [email protected] 135 points 8 months ago (29 children)

This is fucking dumb. People learning how to code don't know how to start. They don't know what to start writing or where to start on it. This is akin to telling a depressed person "just don't be sad".

[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Exactly. If you know nothing about a topic, you don't even know, what exactly to google, except "how to make computer do stuff".

The initial hurdle of incompetence can be extremely frustrating and almost impossible to climb, if you don't have guidance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (5 children)

If you want to learn how to code, can't you just google "coding tutorial for beginners" or something similar? Probably you would need to pick a language, but that would similarly be solved with "recommended coding language for beginners". Then it's very easy to find a resource that starts with hello world and gradually introduces new things. And I'm sure if it moved beyond a browser toolbox, a guide for setting up whatever IDE would be included.

Learning to code is by no means easy, but it's possibly the best type of thing to learn when it comes to having a wealth of free, easily discoverable guides. The main obstacle is choosing to put in the time, and this comic removes that obstacle by forcing them to not put it off.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I'm sure its different now from when I started - because coding is very popular, and the internet is a thing... But I can tell you, that it took a long time before I knew what a programming language was, or 'coding'... these words were just not familiar to me.

I learnt stuff by just opening random executable files in notepad to see what they look like... mostly it was just garbage that no one can understand - but some of them were readable, and I replicated and learnt from them. (they were .bat files.) I became a bit of an expert in making very fancy batch files. I made customisable menus, and a little adventure game. Then my parents helped me out by buying me a programming book. It was about programming in Visual C++. I was pretty excited - until I quickly worked out that Visual C++ was something you had to buy before you could use it.

Anyway, my point is that it is easy to see what you need from the point of view of an expert; but from the point of view of a novice, you don't know what you don't know. You don't know which words are important, or what anything is called. The first steps are not hard except that you don't know which direction you are meant to be stepping in, or where the starting point should be.

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