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[โ€“] [email protected] 88 points 8 months ago (20 children)

Church of Emacs vs. Cult of vi is the only true rivalry. Enlightenment will only be found taking one of these paths.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

As an old coder this is the only religious war worth having. ๐Ÿ˜‚

(Totally church of vi btw)

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm an old emacs warrior, tired of the war. I'm Church of Emacs, but why? I don't know what I don't know about the advantages of vi/vim, I only know that when I see other coders use them, they seem to weave the magic about as well as I do.

I know that I have a ton of built-up configuration code that makes emacs the perfect editor for me. I know that I can't imagine using git much without magit, or how I would organize anything without org-mode, or how I could tolerate the frustration of editing in a container on a remote server without tramp. I know that I have a huge familiarity bias.

I know that whenever I see anybody with with any of these flashy new-fangled editors, they spend most of their time futzing around with dials and buttons and other gadgets, and thinking about how cool it all is, rather than thinking about the code. They start projects really quickly, they handle some refactoring edge cases slightly faster, but they take forever to do any real work, and are completely unprepared to do anything with a new language or text structure at all.

I say: Vim and Emacs against the world.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I hope that I live long enough to one day master either vim or emacs. Until then Unix is my IDE, and mind you, Sublime my editor. But I could immediately relate to people being distracted by their tools rather than focusing on their code. That's what I have observed a lot, it's a distraction from what matters most. Even code itself could be a distraction from more essential code. That's why I think, programmer should delete code constantly, until there is less code, or preferably no code.

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