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Hi everyone,

Currently looking at either a Pixel 8 or a S23 as a replacement for my Zenfone 8 that is slowly becoming a hindrence due to (primarily) the battery. I would replace it, but as it costs a lot to do that here and I have needs for a non-compromised water protection DIY feels like a dangerous option.

So S23 vs Pixel 8, what would you guys recommend assuming I can get either for the same price?

I like the S23 hardware a bit better on paper, but as Pixel phones generally are very flashable my anti-Google sentiments might (ironically) push me there.

I would get a fairphone 5 for the hot-swappable battery etc if they weren't so expensive for what you get, and as Im buying second hand reuse is better for the environment anyways.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (11 children)

You can install GrapheneOS on the Pixel so I'd say that one.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (5 children)

This is the only correct answer. I'm over all the Samsung bloatware.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Is it still that bad huh? I had an A50 before and the bloat was one of the reasons I disliked that phone.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

If you buy an unlocked phone not from a carrier it's not that bad at all really. Samsung dupes are easily disabled in the settings.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah it only gets worse lol I'm on the S21 Ultra and it was an undertaking to de-Samsung as much as I could. Also, GrapheneOS never got bad, just the dev that got a little unhinged. But he has since stepped back on the project and regardless of his ramblings, it's still the single most private and secure mobile OS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Okay, good to know! Do you know whether banking etc is a problem on graphene or not? Last time I used custom roms I got it working with microg but I heard there might have been some regressions?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Some banking apps might not work: https://grapheneos.org/usage#banking-apps

But I don't think this is a common issue. There is an unofficial list of working apps on here: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/

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