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[–] [email protected] 139 points 9 months ago (21 children)

This is what is meant when people talk about the patriarchy and toxic masculinity hurting everyone. It’s not “all men are bad!” But rather the idea that men aren’t allowed by society to have feelings other than anger, or are unable to be raped, or need to just “man up” when they are suffering-It’s all bullshit, and so harmful to men and boys. I’m so sorry for what you went through, and I hope you were able to find peace.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (15 children)

Eh, no. A lot of this crap is also being pushed by the latest wave of feminists who are of the "all men are rapists" type. I recall seeing this video a few years back about a guy trying to get into a meeting for those left after male suicide. Guy's brother committed suicide, he wanted, needed to talk about this and was denied entry by a bunch of feminists who literally cheered that his brother had killed himself.

Everybody deserves equal treatment, men, women, or whatever you identify as. In the past few years though, there had been a clear push against white men because they must all be racist or something? It's weird.

Either way, this is not just "toxic masculinity", way too easy to again push it on that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

As all the popular things, feminism was pretty fucking great up until a certain point. Then it became a parody of itself.

I'm on the side of every woman still struggling in a man-made world. For every "feminist" of the vengeful variety I have nothing but disgust.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Those types of misandrist feminists have always existed

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but now that women live on an equal footing, feminism’s energy comes more from these people than it did before.

When there was justice to be sought, plenty of the movement’s energy could come from love.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I mean, there still is justice to be sought. It’s just that now what’s left is REALLY hard to change (women’s rights outside the first world, prejudices, internalized misogyny etc.), and so an increasingly big amount of feminists focus on bringing men down because that’s easier.

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