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Google enables advertisers a look into your browsing history...

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Exactly. If Google wants to collect user data and use it for their products, they should be paying users. You can't build and sell cars without paying for the nuts and bolts, yet Google has been taking their materials for free.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Not for free, for a browser. This doesn't make it any less evil.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

That's not the deal though. It's not an exchange of data for the use of the product, like you would exchange money for a product or service. The product is offered free of charge, and alongside that they collect whatever they can get away with. There's no consideration, there's no proportionality, it doesn't meet the basic tenets of contract law.

Data companies thrive in this hazy grey zone where regulations haven't been made. However, when you compare what they do to anything else, it's clearly unreasonable. If I invite you into my home, that doesn't mean I give you permission to take the strawberries from my garden. If you invite me into your home, that doesn't mean you get permission to go through my wallet and take photos of everything inside.

It's getting worse, look at Microsoft now. You pay them for the software and they still take your data.

Data needs to be regulated, such that users are fairly compensated and more properly in control of it. Either that, or it must be completely open - Google can collect the data, but their raw database must be freely available to everyone. Lobbying has proven effective for Google et al, however there is some small hope because law makers themselves are also the victims - everyone is. They just need to realise the true value of what's being taken from them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No disagreement here. It's just unfortunate that the users happily agree to everything you've pointed out. Because their browser is apparently just so nice, and a typical user has no ability to recognize value in their data so it feels free to them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

The problem is that the users truly don’t understand how terrifying the data is.

End, it seems impossible to educate them on it .

Nobody wants to believe that they can be manipulated as easily as they actually can be, especially with a bunch of inside information that you don’t think is relevant.

Everyone wants to believe that they are freethinkers and make decisions themselves without “Google bias” and subtle manipulation.

I honestly have no idea how to fight that and it terrifies me

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