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This is an article written by telegram's founder and CEO Pavel Durov in 2019 on "Why whatsapp will never be secure". Your thoughts?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Definitely not. Telegram's MTProto encryption protocol is garbage

The Signal protocol is far superior. Stop spreading misinformation.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

I am not talking about mtproto lmao. I was talking about their opt-in e2ee feature. Edit: Also the research you shared is based on mtproto 1.0 which telegram abandoned almost a decade ago and there have been No such defects found in mtproto 2 yet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

MTProto is what Telegram uses for "Secret Chats", their opt-in end-to-end encryption. Normal messages aren't encrypted at all. They're stored in plain text on Telegram servers. The fact that E2EE is opt-in already makes this app ridiculous. On top of that, it isn't even secure or private lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

the fact that E2EE is opt-in already makes this app ridiculous

in matter of privacy, yes. But it have cool features so.

They’re stored in plain text on Telegram servers

No, non secret chats use mptroto but with different schema, thats not plain servers. And no data breach have been reported in telegram yet if it was "that" easy to breach them. From my last comment: "Also the research you shared is based on mtproto 1.0 which telegram abandoned almost a decade ago and there have been No such defects found in mtproto 2 yet."

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

But it have [sic!] cool features so.

So what? If minimum requirements are not given, it can be as cool as possible. Only not so smart people think that's a good deal.

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