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I think I might cancel. I'm not watching ads and I'm not going to pay the extra $3/mo to opt out. I don't know if I'd end up paying more than the subscription cost in shipping though....

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 10 months ago (37 children)

Are other online retailers so hopelessly sucky that you can't live without Amazon over in the states? It just blows my mind because Amazon honestly sucks compared to the more local stores where I'm at in the Nordics.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (18 children)

For me it’s the fast shipping I can’t live without.

I recently moved into a new apartment and needed to run a network cord from our router to the other side of the apartment to put an access point so we’d have good WiFi coverage. I went online to several other retailers for the few things I needed (cat6, crimp tool, and a few other things), but all of them wanted me to pay ~$25 or more for their slowest shipping option of 5-7 business days.

Meanwhile, Amazon had everything at my door the next day with free shipping. I tried to avoid Bezos, but I couldn’t. :(

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (4 children)

"Couldn't"

It's very obvious that consumers are completely unable to "vote with their wallets" for anything but convenience and low prices. Workers rights, equality, morals you name it are for the vast majority waaaaaay down the scale compared to price and convenience.

This is a case study on why regulation is very much needed, even though we really should be able to do with out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I mean fine; you’re right. I could have sat on my thumbs for 5 days with no WiFi in my living room while I waited for someone else to send what I needed, but why should I have to? Is it completely impossible for a company to provide that convenience without also being a bag of dicks? (Or is that what you meant by regulation?)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes it absolutely is impossible (even though it shouldn't be) so regulation is needed to make being a bag of dicks illegal or disadvantaged (like say the safety labeling on cigarettes, they're legal if they're labeled but no company would willingly label out that their product is dangerous).

Amazon can provide better prices and fuck over their sellers because they're being major douchebags in ways that shouldn't be legal and if it wasn't competing with them would be much more feasible because you wouldn't have to be just as much of a shitstain to compete.

But. Around the world people aren't really voting for regulations either, it's generally neck and neck between forces that wants far less regulation and more power to business and the ones that want more regulation and to reign in companies. So what I state here as obvious and needed is a hot topic for debate which blows my mind. We're callous fucking beings.

EDIT:

To answer your initial question, because it's the morally right thing to do to show solidarity with people that are effectively forced to work in shitty conditions in Amazon warehouses and to stop them killing smaller stores and retailers that provide far more jobs, spread wealth far more evenly and generally is vastly better for both the country and the world even though it might cost you 10-60% more on average and will be less convenient to you.

EDIT2 electric bugallo:

Also to clarify I'm not saying you're a bad person, you're absolutely not from what I can tell. You're just human like everyone. I'm not without fault and buy shit I really shouldn't as well, like stuff out of china when bespoke alternatives exist far closer. It's just painfully obvious with your story that we, the people, can't self regulate for the benefit of our fellow humans and the planet we all depend upon. Sorry for ranting towards you, and for any ill feelings I bestowed upon you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What about going to brick and mortar to make your purchase?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I couldn’t find anywhere within an hour’s commute of me that sold what I needed at reasonable prices.

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