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With AI scraping everything, would it make sense to add copyright notices to comments on the fediverse? CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 Deed (programming.dev)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Artists have complained about their artwork being stolen, people are arguing about threads.net stealing their data on despite this being a public forum, Reddit, Twitter, Github and other platforms are putting up walls to to stop AI bots from scraping everything.

However generative AI and large language models have been been spitting out their training data including copyright notices and other stuff verbatim. "poem poem poem to get personal data from ChatGPT".

So, instead of providing all our comments for free to LLMs, how about adding a copyright notice to everything we write?

I propose the Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International license? Basically, if somebody uses your comment, they have to attribute you, but they may not use it for commercial purposes.

This license requires that reusers give credit to the creator. It allows reusers to distribute, remix, adapt, and build upon the material in any medium or format, for noncommercial purposes only. If others modify or adapt the material, they must license the modified material under identical terms.

All you'd need to do is add this text CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 Deed anywhere in your comment or post.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (11 children)

When I post something here, I usually have the hope that someone else benefits from it in some small, tiny way. Either because it makes them laugh or because it gives them valuable information.

I don't understand why anyone would post if they can't bear the idea that someone else might get a tiny, little something for free.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

Power nor wealth doesn't come from a single individual, but from a great many.

Just because you vote, say or do something, doesn't mean it'll change much of anything. But if hundreds, thousands, millions, or billions do, then we have change. It's exactly the same with data. A single data-point is not worth very much.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If we all work together, we can make sure that none of us can benefit from the other? How does that even make sense?

Look. I am unable to understand why this bothers you. I like feeling I have a positive effect on the world. I like knowing, EG, that my taxes help the less fortunate. What you are saying seems completely absurd to me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your comment assumes everyone agrees ChatGPT or other LMMs/etc are a net benefit to society.

I’m on the fence about it myself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

There's no such assumption. The people who use it must feel it benefits them, or they wouldn't use it. By the same logic, the makers must be getting something out of it, as well.

If there is some net negative for society that I am not seeing, then I don't see why I should even be allowed to offer my work for AI training. Normally, harming other people is a big "NO".

ETA: You're not allowed to shoot people with a patented gun, except in special circumstances. Whether or not you have permission of the patent-holder of the gun is immaterial.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Are you being willfully obtuse or do you really not comprehend? It feels like you're trolling.

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