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[–] [email protected] 78 points 11 months ago (18 children)

Huffman says that he stands by the company’s decision to charge for API access despite the fact that it was massively unpopular, and led to the demise of the leading Reddit app, Apollo …

Getting rid of 3rd party apps was obviously the goal...

Reddit wants people to use their own app, so they get the data

They could have done that by being better than 3rd party apps, but that's hard.

So they charged them an insane amount of money, knowing it would shut them down and leave only the official app.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (15 children)

~~I still wanna know why Narwhal was able to make it work and Apollo couldn't. Nobody has answered that satisfactorily besides Apollo was the first-born figuratively speaking and Narwhal might have been able to learn from Apollo's missteps~~

Please read further down, I have revised my views and I only leave this up so that evolution of understanding can be followed. I believe in redemption and fixing ones views when incompatible new credible info becomes available or visible

Fuck $paz/$pez, as alway$

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Huh? The Apollo dev was very specific about why he couldn't make it work. The turnaround was too fast. He had users on multi-month and even annual subscriptions. Users who were effectively owed service by him. The new model would have turned all of those users into giant financial liabilities for him far beyond whatever revenue he earned from them. And theoretically there was no upper limit on how much those users could have cost him.

If they'd give him 12 months notice about the changes instead of 30 days he would have been able to keep the app running. It would have cost quite a bit more as users would have had to pay for his costs plus the api costs. But with only 30 days the only financially sane thing he could do was refund everyone, rather than let them turn into liabilities he couldn't afford.

If you're wondering why he didn't refund all existing users and then roll out an update with the higher subscriptions... I mean, I'm sure he just didn't want to because he didn't feel like it after being forced to go through all that terribleness and repeatedly being defamed by the admins.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

Actually kinda glad Apollo did go down, because it forced me to reassess that pool of toxicity and GTFO there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Thats very understandable and I have modified my reply above. Hopefully that is more agreeable and respectful of all this :)

Fuck ~~spaz~~ spez

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