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Apple’s MacBook Pro memory problem is worse than ever::Apple still sells expensive "Pro" computers with just 8GB of RAM and charges a fortune for more.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (19 children)

I mean, I get why people don’t like it but at the same time, no one forces you to buy one. I like Macs, I enjoy using OS X and would use it as my primary OS. I don’t because I don’t find the value proposition of their hardware worth it.

Their loss, they have a market, they just aren’t interested in it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

I'm kinda of in the same boat.

My "main" computer is a M1 iPad at this point. It's fast, and I can do all my day to day things on it. If I want to play games I do have a PC for that, but Windows isn't that "pleasant" to use so I don't spend much time with it beyond games.

I was reminded how much MacOS is just a pleasant experience a couple months ago when I found a sale for old mac minis. They had a 2014 model for $60. I put a new SSD in it, and I'm typing on that machine right now. It can get Monterey, but nothing newer. But that still lets me send texts, and the machine unlocks with my watch when I wake it up.

All that to say is: I've now been looking at buying a brand new Mac Mini, but the memory and hard drive charges are insane. They always have been, but it's just ridiculous at this point.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can look into this if you want to upgrade to a newer macOS.

https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Thanks!

I feel like I remember seeing this project right when I got this computer, but I didn't look too far into it. I'll have to check it out.

I do have a little worry that running the newest MacOS would make this little, old mini run pretty slow. I need to do some research.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No if anything newer OS is faster. Apple works extremely hard to improve battery life and has been gradually reducing the size of the batteries in their laptops to get the weight down. My latest Mac has a 50Wh battery that lasts 18 hours in real world use. Years ago I used to get 5 hours from a 100Wh battery.

Those battery improvements aren’t just from efficient hardware - it also comes from more efficient software.

If you still had a HDD that’d be a problem, the software assumes a fast drive now and leaves memory on the disk that, years ago, would have been pulled into RAM, but you won’t have that problem since you have an SSD (also… that’s a big part of why Macs don’t need much RAM compared to Linux or Windows).

Apple drops support for old Macs when the cheapest configuration of that Mac is no-longer fast enough. With upgrades, like yours has, it’s often fine.

… but seriously when you can afford it an M1 processor will be an order of magnitude faster. I’ve got a 2014 Mac Mini at home and also an M1 laptop. The speed difference is astronomical. Mostly I just keep the Mac Mini around for backups/etc since connecting a laptop into an external backup drive is annoying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I may have already bought a new Mac mini if it didn’t cost $400 to upgrade the ram and hard drive space to something respectable.

I’ve used my M1 iPad with stage manager with my external monitor quite a bit, and it smashes this old Mac mini on opening and closing apps and whatnot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have the same mini which runs Sonoma like a champ. OCLP is a wonderful tool.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

That’s good to know. I may try and see if I can get it up and running.

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