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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (14 children)

Ok let me unpack your two points:

  • The difference with the sentience criteria is that a non-sentient being by definition cannot be hurt by actions taken against their being as there is quite literally no subject, no one, to experience anything. Would you say that someones that likes smashing rocks is discriminating against rocks? Of course not because it makes no sense to speak about discrimination for a non sentient being/object. The only time where you can make an argument that doing something to a non sentient being is an issue is when it affects a sentient being.

  • Again as I've literally stated in my earlier comment the discrimination is not based on species but on sentience. If you want a more concrete example, let's imagine a philosophical zombie or in other terms a non-sentient human. I would not include such a being in my moral circle by itself as it would lack sentience.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Would you say that someones that likes smashing rocks is discriminating against rocks?

i wouldn't say they're are discriminating against rocks. i'd say they are using discrimination and allowing themselves to smash objects they class as "rocks"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (9 children)

But you would agree that the rocks themselves cannot have an issue with it? That's the gist of the sentientist position. Sentient beings have an interest in living, not being exploited and thus the sentientist position goes further and say that for the same reasons we say that humans have a right to live (i.e.: not being killed) or being exploited, we should extend the same rights to sentient beings because there is no morally relevant difference between us and other sentient beings that would justify killing them when you would not kill a human being in the same position.

Note that this does not mean all sentient beings should have exactly the same rights. Obviously giving the right to vote to a cow does not make sense, the same way we don't give the right to abortion to cis men because they cannot make use of this right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

we should extend the same rights to sentient beings because there is no morally relevant difference between us and other sentient beings

yes there is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's your morally relevant argument for killing for example cows for taste pleasure and not humans then? What's this special trait humans have that other sentient being do not possess that allows us to do that to them?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

What’s this special trait humans have that other sentient being do not possess that allows us to do that to them?

they aren't human.

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