this post was submitted on 10 Dec 2023
614 points (98.4% liked)

Technology

59374 readers
7113 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I am well aware that there are costs beside materials and labor. In my company, I'm part of those other costs - I'm R&D. The point is still: Why shall we bear all those costs and others don't? Don't expect people being happy about being handled gross unfair.

They’re also not the same cars.

Yes, there are differences. But they are small, and could be incorporated in a low-cost version of European cars, too - if they actually want a low cost version here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Why shall we bear all those costs and others don’t

That sounds like standard supply demand. If you can bear it, and there is no alternative, you will. But moreover as was mentioned there are reasons that may require a product being different prices in different markets as operating expenses are not the same. The simple cost of launching a product in different markets incurs different costs, and thus different prices. That's a trivial example, and with vehicles it gets really complex at the regulatory level, especially in regulatory-rich countries which are common in the EU.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you can bear it, and there is no alternative, you will.

And that is the point that will break the European car makers necks. The Chinese just start being alternatives, just like Japanese cars were in the 80s and 90s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

To give it credit, Japanese cars are now among the best in class, and can be enjoyed on a global market at a "reasonable" price. Took them a few decades to get there though. When/if Chinese manufacturers get to that level - that would be a win for the common consumer anywhere. And European companies with their trend to sell less, but more expensive, cars, will likely be outcompeted.