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[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (13 children)

So I assume they added any necessary stuff to the TOS to allow this.

My question is if there's any legal mechanism to prevent this on other platforms? Pixelfed for example.

Companies will likely federate and pull images regardless, but can we go after them when they're caught? Nothing prevents them from taking the images for internal R&D, but at least we can stop them from selling products with that training data

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

You're never going to get rights over the training data your pictures that are freely available for anything to scan creates. By being on the internet your pictures basically have the right to be viewed by anyone or anything even an AI. You have never gotten to control who looks at your content after you post it.

You're trying to make the same argument the "don't copy my nft" bros tried to make.

Imagine going into court and saying you should get paid for all the stuff u gave away for free on the Internet willingly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well there's a difference between "don't look at my work without paying me, even if it's posted publicly" and "don't sell my work without paying me, even if it's posted publicly"

Like I said, there's nothing we can do about companies using all the data they can get their hands on for private R&D. It IS possible to protect against the second case, where companies can't sell an LLM product with copyrighted training data.

My question was about how that second case could be extended to stuff posted on the Fediverse, such as if an instance had a blanket "all rights belong to the user posting the content".

These laws exist, if companies can use them then so can we

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