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Or maybe they will launch Win 12 with optional TPM support.

Imho making the OS(es) TPM only cannot be good for their business, many people are still on Win 10 with no intention to switch, since their motheboard does not support TPM and do not want to upgrade PC / waste PCI-E slot on TPM extension.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (27 children)

The way Microsoft phrases it, it's way more ubiquitous than you make it out:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/what-is-tpm-705f241d-025d-4470-80c5-4feeb24fa1ee

"TPM has been around for over 20 years, and has been part of PCs since around 2005. In 2016 TPM version 2.0 - the current version as of this writing - became standard in new PCs.

The odds are that your PC does already have TPM, and if it's less than 5 years old you should have TPM 2.0.

To find out if your Windows 10 PC already has it go to Start > Settings > Update and Security > Windows Security > Device Security. If you have it, you'll see a Security processor section on the screen."

So when they say:

"Important: Windows 11 requires TPM version 2.0."

They're requiring a standard established 7 years ago. Windows 11 launched in 2021, why WOULDN'T it require something from 2016?

You really want to run an OS from 2021 on hardware older than 2016? That's not going to be a good idea, TPM or not.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Probably worth noting that TPM often needs to be enabled in the motherboard’s BIOS. It’s possible that OP has it already, but got the “you don’t have TPM” error when trying to upgrade to Win11, simply because it isn’t activated in their BIOS.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also worth noting that people may have access to TPM through their CPU, notably AMD Rysens... And that some of those were plagued for a while with very bad performance issues when it was activated.

It's supposed to be fixed now, but only if you got the right BIOS updates. Not sure myself, I kinda gave up on TPM and Windows 11 on my current hardware.

The way things are going, honestly my next PC will probably have TPM because it'll have a newer motherboard, but I am not ruling out not having Windows on it.

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