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Thanks to whoever posted this on reddit. I hope other clients detect and blocking it.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (22 children)

I don't understand what's going on. Can someone ELI5?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Torrents are people sharing files with each other, uploading and downloading. Stremio downloads, but never uploads. And now it doesn't want you to know who's using it, because people kept banning it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Got it. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I though that streamio uploads too. Because a few months ago my internet browsing was slow, after I closed streamio the issue stopped.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I dont think stremio does either technically. Stremio it's typically used as a front end application for debrid services. Mainly real debrid, all debrid and premiumize.

I believe the 2 debrids only download, but i think premiumize seeds, but not 100% sure.

That being said if a file gets added to these services it is not constantly leeching like op said. The real debid servers for example will download a torrent and distrubute the downloaded file throughout their cdn, leaving it in their cache for 30 days. I believe each time it is accessed by a user that 30 day clock is reset.

Stremio typically only shows cached torrents in there app so in order for a user to force a download they would need to go to their debrid provider directly and add the torrent causing it to get added to the cache.

Is it bad for the torrenting network, yes because they don't seed, is stremio using up all of seeders bandwidth, probably not

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

My girlfriend got a legal claim for using stremio when her vpn failed which in Germany is only possible if you actively upload something so I'd say it does that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok, maybe stremio has a torrent client compiled in or maybe a plugin i dont use has one then.

However, if you turn off upload in your torrent client you can still get caught, uploading isnt want triggers it, connecting to peers with your exposed ip triggers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but afaik downloading in Germany isn't against the law since it's allowed to download a "backup copy" of things you actually own legally so it's pretty much never enforced. The only way people in Germany get sued is for uploading but then a couple of bytes is already enough in many cases

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I can't speak for germany but where i live downloaders dont ever get sued, they just get complaints from isps and if they get too many they may be shut off or have their speed throttled.

Uploaders get sued because its too costly and time consuming to go after the downloaders

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Not using a debrid service in Germany is crazy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What if im not using real debrid in streamio?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not 100% sure but since they are free links they wont come from torrents, at least not in the same way. They are being scraped from streaming websites.

Whetger or not the original uploaded got them from a torrent is unknown but they would have just downloaded it once and uploaded so very different in its effect on torrenting.

Those sites have always coexisted with torrents because they are often of low quality whereas torrents are higher quality

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

In Stremio Im using torrent plugins, not streaming websites.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Gotcha, i only use the debrid links so my knowledge on this was how cinemahd used to do it in the past

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

But to answer your question, if there is a plugin with a torrent client included then it is most likely set up to download the files sequentially to allow streaming but i would assume it is set to turn upload off (so it leeches) because your tv would probably buffer more if it used additional bandwith

If thats the case (not 100%) then that may be why they are trying to block stremio

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