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Amazon exec says it’s time for workers to ‘disagree and commit’ to office return — “I don’t have data to back it up, but I know it’s better.”::“We’re here, we’re back. It’s working,” an Amazon Studios head said in a meeting, before acknowledging a lack of evidence.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Straight up fundamentalist religious thinking right there.

"There isn't any reason for you to believe what I'm saying, but just believe it anyways."

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

This is not at all what he said. I understand that the facts are unimportant in the face of the narrative, but he just said he doesn't have the facts to back up what he believes is true. There are lots of reasons to believe it is true, and he gave a bunch. Whether or not it is true is hard to tell without the data, but claiming he's saying nothing more than "just because" is ignoring the facts in favor of what you want to be true.

I mean, unless you have the facts to back up your (I assume) claim that WFH is better, then you are no different than he is on this, and you are effectively calling yourself a "fundamentalist religious" thinker.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Nice try, but maybe practice in the garage next time before stepping up for a debate.

  1. What do you call somebody who admits they have no data or evidence to back up what they believe but still insists that they are right and you have to agree with them? Yeah, a religious fundamentalist is a good example. His claim was all anecdotal, he just "feels" like people work better in person based on his own subjective experience.

Now that might be fine when it comes to some things, live and let live, etc. The difference here is that he and other upper management get to just force the rest of the workers to conform to their viewpoint without any evidence. It's a structural problem.

  1. I never claimed that WFH is universally better than in-office work, so strike two on that one. I'm merely critiquing his approach of forcing workers to conform to a policy that he believes in, based on no supporting evidence, just vibes. I was making a structural critique.

  2. If you want my actual viewpoint, I think that WFH should be up to the employee. Some people work better in person, some people work better from home, and some (like me) enjoy hybrid because of the flexibility it offers. Also, some people are brutally punished by mandated in-office work. A person who has a 90 minute commute both ways (who typically isn't compensated for commute time,) is a perfect candidate for WFH. But because this guy "feels like" WFH is bad, he gets to just dictate that from on high instead of workers being able to figure out what works best for them and their teams.

In other words, nuance is important, unless you are a fundie who builds their beliefs off vibes and anecdotes and then imposes them on other people regardless of their views, desires, situations, or objective data.

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