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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (44 children)

I think this is ignoring the fact that the average americans daily milage is so little (around 30 miles)that an electric car can be topped up off a Level 1 charger. Even more if you can get a level 2 charger.

So for most americans average driving, an electric car would be a boon, even if no independent in the wild infrastructure/charging facilities existed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (9 children)

TBH if your daily mileage is only 30 or so miles, then you can do all of that on an electric bike.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Electric bikes suck in the Wisconsin winter

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I hear that biking in the snow isn't actually bad. This is hearsay because it doesn't snow much where I am.

You wear your winter coat and snow pants, and get studded tires.

You don't have to worry about getting stuck going up an icy hill (because if its too icy to drive up, you can walk up it), granted not likely to be a problem in Wisconsin.

You don't have to worry about getting stuck due to low clearance (like the snow between the ruts that hatchbacks and minivans get stuck on) because you can just pick up your bike.

Also if a pedestrian slips while crossing the road, you probably won't kill them if you can't stop in time.

I guess the wind could be intense. What's your experience been?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Consider doing any of this in -20F even without the wind chill. Now consider the battery on that bike in those temps.

I've had it be so cold outside that the door lock latch on my entryway door for my garage was growing ice crystals. This isn't a door that's on the outside. This is the door on the entry from the garage to the house.

Now imagine trying to bike anywhere with that and what is essentially a salt/beet sugar slurry in the roads with no one giving you right of way it even being able to see in front of them because they're either drunk, on the phone, only cleared a 3" hole in their windshield or "you just came out of nowhere" ;)

But hey, the summers here are kickass

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey thanks for more context I appreciate it.

-20F (-30C) is quite cold. How often is it that cold during commuting hours? It's hard to read too much into anecdotes re house latches freezing because there are so many peculiarities of individual houses. Range will definitely be reduced though.

I could see the ice melt slurry being messy and gumming up the bike's mechanics for sure. Not something I have experience with.

Yeah separate infrastructure makes biking a lot safer and so more attractive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It's actually not as bad on average as I conveyed

https://weatherspark.com/countries/US/WI

I think a lot of it is wind chills, especially where I am since Madison, WI sits between two lakes.

It might be better on a regular fat tire bike and not EV here, though in the last few years EV has become insanely popular around here.

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