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[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (91 children)

I would like to buy an electric car but I will not because;

  1. I don't have a garage.
  2. I live in a very wintery climate and don't trust the battery to take it/don't want to heat a battery
  3. The closest chargers are at least 50 km away in other towns
  4. My house has 60 amp service (upgrading that is on the todo list, but it's a long list)
  5. I don't trust the battery to last longer than the life of the lease
[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (53 children)

Most of those fears aren't completely valid anymore.

  1. You can park it outside.
  2. winter gets you less mileage but not the end of the world, some of the fastest growing EV markets are cold countries.
  3. You might be surprised, a lot of grocery stores and even workplaces have some basic charging capabilities. Plus you can charge at home.
  4. If you have an electric dryer you can charge your car overnight, just don't do both together.
  5. Batteries will outlast any lease, if you're looking to get 10-15 years out of a car that would be understandable, but if you're leasing it won't be a problem.
[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

I live in a small town in a rural area. There is one charger in my town, but it's at the county building and is for county employees. There are chargers at grocery stores, but those are 50kms away.

My house still has a fuse box, I don't have any available holes. The whole system needs changed and I will, but that's $10k and that's not a very exciting purchase.

I guess I didn't mean lease, I meant financing. I definitely hope to have a vehicle at least 7 years. I just upgraded my paid off corolla because we needed all wheel drive vehicle for our winters here. Otherwise I'd have kept it till it died in 20 years (corolla joke). The electric car would have to be comparable to that and I'm not sold that they will be. We bought one of the few cars available to us without a multi month wait.

I'm sure many of my fears are unjustified, but I require further evidence. I'm not an early adopter type.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You really only have 1 problem (aside from perceptions), but it's a real one. You need to be able to charge at home, and it sounds like you probably can't do that. You'd be stuck on trickle charging (3 miles of range per hour on the charger), and even that's questionable.

The car will keep the battery warm whenever it's plugged in. If you take care of the battery (rarely let it go all the to 0% or 100%), it will easily last over 100k miles, and probably to 200k. When it does start to wear out, it's not a hard cutoff- just like your phone, you'll notice the capacity (range) starts to drop.

FWIW, there are very significant federal rebates/tax credits in the US for EVs. That specifically includes upgrading electrical service to support an EV charger. But given that you said kms, I have to assume you are in a different country. Many have their own incentives, but you'd have to check into those yourself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

From what I understand our incentives ended a couple years ago and my Premier is a dick. I'm definitely not against electric cars, but I think the car we bought was a good choice for our current situation. I hope our car is the last ICE we buy. Much of my needs are met with my ebike and I try to structure my life to need a car as little as possible. Winter's a bitch though.

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