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OpenAI was working on advanced model so powerful it alarmed staff::Reports say new model Q* fuelled safety fears, with workers airing their concerns to the board before CEO Sam Altman’s sacking

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[–] [email protected] 123 points 1 year ago (18 children)

So staff requested the board take action, then those same staff threatened to quit because the board took action?

That doesn't add up.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago (13 children)

The whole thing sounds like some cockamamie plot derived from chatgpt itself. Corporate America is completely detached from the real world.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

That's exactly what it is. A ploy for free attention and it's working.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s no way this was a “ploy”.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ploy
/ploi/
noun
a cunning plan or action designed to turn a situation to one's own advantage.

Except for the cunning part it seems to be a pretty good description.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s no way the board members tarnished their reputations and lost their jobs so they could get attention for a company they no longer work for and don’t have a stake in. That’s just silly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think the firing was a ploy, but I do think the retroactive justification of ‘we were building a model so powerful it scared us’ is a ploy to drum up hype. Just like all the other times they’ve said the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Ah ok. I agree with that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's an appealing 'conspiracy' angle, and I understand why it might seem juicy and tantalising to onlookers, but that idea doesn't hold up to any real scrutiny whatsoever.

Why would the Board willingly trash their reputation? Why would they drag the former Twitch CEO through the mud and make him look weak and powerless? Why would they not warn Microsoft and risk damaging that relationship? Why would they let MS strike a tentative agreement with the OpenAI employees that upsets their own staff, only to then undo it?

None of that makes any sense whatsoever from a strategic, corporate "planned" perspective. They are all actions of people who are reacting to things in the heat of the moment and are panicking because they don't know how it will end.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago

Why would the Board willingly trash their reputation?

What reputation?

Why would they drag the former Twitch CEO through the mud and make him look weak and powerless?

Why would they care about that?

Why would they not warn Microsoft and risk damaging that relationship? Why would they let MS strike a tentative agreement with the OpenAI employees that upsets their own staff, only to then undo it?

Microsoft has put their entire sack in OpenAI's purse. They could literally do or say anything to Microsoft.

Are you telling me you really think it's outlandish to think the same people who push a glorified nested 'if' statement as AI would do what it said to do? Those people are goofy, if they thought they were being given a convoluted real life quest by a digital DM they'd be all about it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would they want attention not a publicly traded company?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's that got to do with anything? They sell a thing, they want the thing to sell more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think pretty much the entire world knows about chat GPT so clearly advertising isn't an issue for them. Firing your CEO is not really a good look unless you've got a very very good reason in which case you should announce it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Which they didn't because it's fake grandstanding bullshit.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

Sound more like a ploy to become a fully for proffit get rid of the not for priffit board

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