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[–] [email protected] 67 points 11 months ago (7 children)

It will also be interesting to see if Altman ends up demonstrating the dishonest behavior at Microsoft that he's been accused of at OpenAI, with the former inheriting the mess that those who expelled him from the latter were hoping to avoid. His reputation and other endeavors, especially WorldCoin, don't really give me much confidence in him, personally.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I like your take. Altman is a Valley hustler, albeit a talented one who ran YC. But, he’s not technologist or a theorist, and I suspect he’s not that interested in attempting to de-risk AGI anymore, particularly now that he’s experienced the market hype. The staff who want to be billionaires clotted to him; the staff who are committed to the original ethical vision stuck with Ilya.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (5 children)

My little theory is that he was in cahoots with Microsoft re some product roadmap, against the wishes of the board.

  1. Microsoft was not consulted re his firing as not to alert him or because there's no point asking the revealed adversary.

  2. Microsoft was "furious" and desperately tried to reinstate him.

  3. Immediately offered him a job. Effectively undermining their investment in open ai.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This may also be about trying to take control of OpenAI. Despite owning 49% of OpenAI, the company is seemingly set up so the 5 board members have control and they're seemingly not under the control of investors.

Could this actually be about Altman and his allies trying to take the company fully for-profit so they could benefit? It also seems Altman is very close to Microsoft, so rather than product roadmap this might actually about trying to take control of the company.

Microsoft hiring the staff and forming an AI unit is a boon to them if it happens, but OpenAI still own and controls everything they've worked on up to date, and it seems the Investors don't control that judging by the boards independance.

Meanwhile Altman is tweeting very concillatory OpenAI but pro Microsoft position. This may be a battle for the whole company, not just a personality thing.

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