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A book review on the latest Weinersmith creation. It’s true, there is so much we don’t know.

Just throwing this out there on this forum because missing technology is the problem that kills the dream of Mars, according to the authors.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (29 children)

One of the things standing in the way of an"civilization" on Antarctica is that it's illegal to build a civilization on Antarctica. We could absolutely do it, assuming we were willing to fight a war and the resources were worth it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Doesn’t the outer space treaty place similar restrictions on mars?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

AFAIK it only prevents weaponization of space.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It also prohibits countries from claiming sovereignty, and it actually used the Antarctic treaty for inspiration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

Which is not to say that it’s exactly the same situation as Antarctica, but the treaties are more similar than you might assume.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It prohibits countries from claiming sovereignty over territory beyond Earth, but the colonies themselves can still be sovereign. Assuming the treaty continues as it is it just means that countries won't be able to draw borders around vast lifeless regions on Mars or the Moon and claim jurisdiction over them, they'll still be able to build cities there and the cities will be theirs to control.

Treaties like these lapse or get amended over time as the realities of life make them obsolete, though. I expect that once there are cities on Mars there'll be borders as well.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's just that the sheer scale of planetary colonization kind of makes this a problem for the year 4,000 or so.

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