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[–] [email protected] 229 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (32 children)

Dealing with spaces while scripting or in terminal is such a pain in the ass. The true dark path of horror is using spaces indeed.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

It's a way bigger pain in the ass than people think it is. I remember having to parse output from a tool for work that had tons of output in tabular format, mixed with normal sentence like strings. JSON, YAML, or XML outputs weren't available so I had to do a nasty mess of grep, awk, cut, and head/tail, to get what I wanted. My first attempt was literally counting the characters so I could cut out exactly what I needed, but as we all know, hardcoding values is a recipe for headaches later on.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

Here's a horror story from literally yesterday. We have been fighting a system for a client for weeks and it has been a nightmare. Our clients just told us that they outsourced some of their work to an Indian outfit but that outfit is unfamiliar with Linux and doesn't know how to edit text files so they have been downloading the files to their Windows machines, editing them in Windows, then uploading the contaminated text files back into Linux. None of them, not our client nor the outfit they hired, understood why this was a problem. We have no idea what files are affected and we won't know until they fail because they obviously did not keep track of what they touched.

EDIT: I'm being intentionally vague.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If this is about line endings, surely a simple shell or python script could correct them?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Does windows add an extra character at the end that gets converted to new line on linux? Because the other day I were copying a script and after pasting it an extra line was added after every single line, even the empty lines.

how it looked when I copied it:

bla
bla

bla

what it turned into:

bla

bla



bla
 
[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Windows uses CR LF (carriage return, line feed), whereas Unix just uses LF. For added fun, macs use CR.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For added fun, macs use CR.

This used to be true, for sure, but I thought this changed with OS X (which is essentially PrettyBSD) ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

You're right. Notepad++ still lists macs as using CR for their EOL conversion tool, so I didn't realize.

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