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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Blue vs green bubble "debate"? Apple put green bubbles in their app to annoy their own users, who then turn around and blame non-apple users. What's to debate about that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Apple put green bubbles in their app to annoy their own users

Out of curiosity, when do you think Apple started using green bubbles?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (12 children)

It's not "when" they put green bubbles in but how they've been maliciously modifying the design of green bubbles. They have made them progressively harder to read, here's one article about it: https://uxdesign.cc/how-apple-makes-you-think-green-bubbles-gross-e03b52b12fed

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole argument is ridiculous because it's only the messages that you wrote and sent that are even on a blue or green color. The messages you read are always on the same light gray background regardless of how they sent.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People never re-read their own texts, good point.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's just an incredibly weak argument. Messages that you, yourself, wrote are in slightly lower contrast? Who cares? For users who actually have vision problems with low-contrast, there's a single Reduce Transparency toggle in Accessibility settings that will resolve this issue and a bunch of other ones.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An incredibly weak argument is saying that it's fine for Apple to intentionally make their UX worse, because they didn't make it worse enough to matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They picked a tint of a color used on low priority text. Someone argued that this particular tint is slightly worse for certain people. If you don't have vision problems, it's not really worse for you at all. We're talking about small differences in relative contrast between different elements. If you do have vision problems, you can easily make it and other similar situations across the entire platform easier to read with an accessibility toggle.

No, I don't buy the argument that the UX for reading SMS messages is meaningfully worse than for iMessages.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People do care for some reason. Psychology or something, here's Marques Brownlee's pretty in depth explanation of the whole thing. It seems like Apple has been aware of the issues and happy to keep them/make them worse since at least 2013

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

People care that SMS and MMS suck. "Green messages" is just a shorthand, nontechnical way of describing it. Nobody legitimately cares that the green background is every-so-slightly lower contrast than the blue background.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

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