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[–] [email protected] 113 points 1 year ago (46 children)

People who say PHP is shit haven't really used it and are just repeating the memes. It's a perfectly fine language and there are a number of excellent tools and frameworks for it. It's reputation is a result of it's easy entry and widespread use. A whole lot of people who knew just enough to be dangerous made a whole lot of stuff, and it ended up causing a whole lot of problems. But for some reason devs shit on the language instead of shitting on the devs who put them in a mess.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It has also improved a lot in the last years. PHP5 and especially versions older than that weren't very good and deserved a lot of the criticism. PHP7 and onward are much better languages and don't deserve the hate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I worked a lot with PHP3 and 4, they work by the "Here is a flat C style API and here's all the functions to use." principle, and a lot of the work was finding the needed function, and how to use it.

I know PHP5 did a lot of redesign especially with classes, but have never used it, hope PHP5+ feels more like Pythons toolbox.

If I should write a web application today, I would start looking at Python based frameworks: Django (I have used it before)/Flask/Etc. as I am not sure I would like to work with JavaScript, or have to re-learn PHP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

A fun story about the origin of some of PHP's first function names. The hash function in the table for function names in the interpreter was strlen(), so names were chosen to have a wide distribution of lengths.

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