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I've been using Proton Mail and VPN for a while now, and I'm just wondering how everyone else feels about them. I have this kind of inherent alight distrust of them just because they seem like they offer a lot for free and kind of have a Big Tech vibe about them, but there's nothing for me to really substantiate that distrust with, its mostly just a feeling. That being said, I do use their services as mentioned and they work pretty well, even on the free teir. So aside from that one instance where they gave that guy's info to the feds, is there any reason not to trust them with my data?

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (7 children)

'So aside from that one instance where they gave that guy's info to the feds, is there any reason not to trust them with my data?'

They were under a court order. They still have to follow their country's laws.

That is not to say you shouldn't question them, but that particular example should not be used.

If that person had better opsec it never would have been a thing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Yeah I think most people confuse privacy with criminal behaviour. Proton has your back when it comes to the former, but they aren’t there to enable you to pirate or cause trouble, hiding behind their service.

I don’t see how making sure criminals are brought to justice is the same as protecting your anonymity on the net.

And even if mandated under law, it’s not like they actually log your travels and are handing that to law enforcement. Whatever they hand over still falls under their services guidelines.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's the thing. Anonymity on the internet should enable people to protect themselves against unethical laws. Law is not correct, it's just law

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