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Unremoval of Piracy Communities @ lemmy.world (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/6018317

Hello World!

As we've all known and talked about quite a lot, we previously blocked several piracy-focused communities. These communities, as announced, were:

[email protected],

[email protected],

[email protected], and their local counterparts as follow up actions.

In our removal announcement, we stated that we will continue to look into this more in detail, and re-allow these communities if and when we deem it safe. It was a solid concern at the time, because we were already receiving takedown requests as well as constant attacks, and didn't want to put our volunteer team at risk. We had zero measures in place, and the tools we had were insufficient to deal with anything at scale.

Well, after back and forth with some very cool people, and starting to have proper measures as well as tooling to protect ourselves, we decided it's time to welcome these communities back again. Long live the IT nerds!

We know it's been a rough ride with everything, and we'd like to thank every one of you who were understanding of us, and stayed with us all the way. Please know that as users, you are what makes this platform what it is, and damned we be if we ever forget it.

With love, and as always, stay safe in the high seas!

Lemmy.world Team

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I’m curious what the takedown requests were citing, those communities don’t really host pirated material, they just share links and info.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (7 children)

DMCA takedown requests are kinda "guilty until proven innocent" instead of "innocent until proven guilty."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Threads that didn’t even include direct links, it was just a discussion. Whatever you guys think, it was a lot of shit to deal with on top of what we were already dealing with.

Only if they are legal requests, which in the case of a request to ban discussion, isn't.

(And that is why one usually has a legal canary and a policy to publish any and all DMCA requests received, as I've seen some orgs do. Helps put the trolls on the spotlight and quickly detect unlawful usage)

The team could have perfectly asnwered by not doing anything at all, waiting a day or two to file a counternotice. Unfortunately the system is stacked in favour of the big pharmas of media, but it's not like there is nothing that can be done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's not that simple. A lot of the times these DMCAs are not sent to your instance email, they're sent to your provider's and they don't give a fuck. They will tell you, "remove it, or we take down your whole server and all data in it". You can send a DMCA counternotice sometimes, but eventually if you get enough bogus DMCAs, some providers just terminate your service anyway due to their hassle. It's fucked up and the reason why lemmy.dbzer0.com had to change providers to someone more hostile to bogus-DMCAs.

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