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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What would be a fair way to manage wages without the need for unemployment?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why are you so against a minimum wage when people keep telling you why it’s important?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because I am not convinced by their arguments. It makes sense if you accept a minimum of unemployed people. But why should society settle for that? Employ everybody and find another way to prevent wages from rising too high.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the workers don’t currently have either- lowering or removing the minimum wage might reduce the unemployment rate, but those jobs are not going to be paid at a livable rate. Currently more theft is wage theft committed by companies against workers, they’re already using the power they have against workers. There’s already a clear divide between union and nonunion blue collar benefits and wages: if there were a textbook play of economic principles, all nonunion blue collar employees would quit and join union companies or form their own.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having neither, it's the same as the saying about liberty and security. If you don't seek employment for all then you won't get minimum wage.

Let the people decide what a livable wage is. A bad job is better than no job. They can still refuse to work.

Of course, without new ideas, things don't change. Not the workers but the companies need a reason for full employment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let the people decide what a livable wage is. A bad job is better than no job. They can still refuse to work.

The people have a gun to their head. If they’re not eligible for unemployment because a $3/hour job is available, they’ll take it not to starve to death. That doesn’t make it a free or advantageous choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Of course, if there is only support if you don't have a job then minimum wage makes sense.

But that support comes from taxes. I would prefer a society where everybody works so that taxes are low. Of course there must still be something that gives people the freedom to say no.

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