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[–] [email protected] 130 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (37 children)

Is reddit owned and operated by a malicious entity? I used to be addicted to that platform, but now I can't stand it.

[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.

I call this enshittification, and it is a seemingly inevitable consequence arising from the combination of the ease of changing how a platform allocates value, combined with the nature of a "two sided market," where a platform sits between buyers and sellers, holding each hostage to the other, raking off an ever-larger share of the value that passes between them.

From https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Do you think maybe it'll be different with a federated and thus less centralized platform like Lemmy? Or do you think it will just delay this process? Cause right now lemmy and kbin seem to be pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that the FOSS Fediverse platforms are significantly resistant to enshittification.

That same article explores what enables enshittification and what precludes it:

The Netheads wanted to build diverse networks with lots of offers, lots of competition, and easy, low-cost switching between competitors (thanks to interoperability).

Fediverse platforms:

  • are highly interoperable - e.g. you can use Lemmy or Kbin and still see the same posts
  • mostly FOSS, so anyone can fork them whenever they want if they don't like some particular change
  • most instances currently aren't operated for profit - certainly if your instance started displaying ads you could switch to another instance (or set one up) and still access all the same content as you did previously
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm yeah that's what I was thinking... May kbin and lemmy live long and prosper 🖖

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