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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (31 children)

The official reason for tariffs is government subsidy AFAIK, but in reality the moment they lower the tariffs, US and EU automobile industry is done.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (28 children)

The heavy subsidy by the Chinese government is the reason they would dominate though. The tariffs won’t ever be lifted unless they stop manipulating the prices to be lower than domestic competitors…

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Government providing money to create innovative new tech and make it available at a lowe cost to their constituents

Manipulating the prices to be lower

I just wanted to point out the pervasiveness of capitalist propaganda here. They're not manipulating prices, they're helping their people. It just so happens that our capitalistic systems don't do well when someone helps their neighbor because then we can't abuse them.

Now don't get me wrong though, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you the Chinese government does no wrong. But in just this particular case I think we're picking the wrong battle

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It is capitalist perspective, but not propaganda.

If there is meant to be capitalist competition then the competitors should not be massively funded by the government. China massively funds their electric car industry, principally because they own them.

That said, US carmakers get Government bailouts all the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Right but it's the specific use of the phrase "manipulating prices."

Manipulating has a negative connotation, it's a buzzword used often in capitalist propaganda. They're not manipulating prices, they're subsidizing the industry so that their people can reap the benefits of their taxes in a tangible way. The same way Americans subsidize farmers, and their EV industry. We just don't subsidize it as much.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Flooding the market with impossibly cheap products that can’t be competed against isn’t a good thing when anyone does it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

They're not impossibly cheap. They just require support from a larger group like a government subsidy instead of a single corporation's influence.

If there's nothing wrong with the quality of the product then they're not doing anything wrong. They're just challenging the rest of the world to reduce their prices and increase their quality to beat the competition.

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