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Firewalls are a great way to tell if new apps are secrely installed

Btw what is the key verifier thing?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

Worried I'm getting a bit too paranoid, but...

Why backdoor the messaging apps when you can just monitor the entire OS?

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Having control over the OS doesn't help if the OS doesn't understand the app's data.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

... the OS doesn't understand the app's data.

I assume you are referring to End to End Encrypted (E2EE) messaging apps here. I'm no programmer/developer/software engineer and I'll be the first to admit that I don't know a ton about how most apps work on the backend. That being said, my understanding is that E2EE apps decrypt whatever is being transmitted to them when they get to your device (assuming phone here) (of course it would decrypt it, otherwise how would you make sense of the information?). Once the data is on your phone, it is decrypted. From what I understand, sandboxing apps is not all that robust on Android (at least on "mainstream" versions)

Therefore, the data that was Encrypted from End to End was decrypted at the End and therefore accessible by other applications and processes on your phone. Unless Android sandboxing has improved greatly in the last few weeks.

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