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[–] [email protected] 151 points 1 year ago (26 children)

The worst part is, they're partnering with Tencent.

Telegram is dead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We have chat standard called XMPP created by literially the same org that makes standards for Internet and Email.

And there are other public protocols to choose from.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately XMPP died roughly when the mobile devices became a mainstay. The way Google de facto took over the protocol didn't help either, but even without it XMPP isn't fit for the mobile-first world. The client needs to maintain an active connection at all times and there is nothing akin to push messaging, causing quite a significant battery drain. I might be unaware of some progress in this regard but this is how I remember it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The client needs to maintain an active connection at all times" is just plain wrong. Offline messaging is what makes it so much more fit for the masses compared to IRC (I adore IRC btw).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't mean offline messaging with messages waiting for the user to go online. I mean the lack of push messaging capabilities, so the user/client doesn't know there is a message waiting until they already go "fully" online.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Signal for private conversations and for larger groups Matrix. Matrix can also be bridged to telegram effortlessly.

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