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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (51 children)

Let’s not get carried away. The scope of the comment is pretty narrow if you read it closely

The only thing I want to hear from you is that you actively disavow Trump, or if you feel this is going to hurt your business, at least say nothing at all. Anything other than that marks you as a shameless suck-up, and I want nothing to do with you or your business.

Ergo, I want nothing to do with Proton. It's time suck-ups pay the price and see their bottom lines drop because of their dubious choices.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (14 children)

Who makes your phone?

Who makes your computer?

Who is your ISP?

Who do you bank with?

What email client do you use?

Let’s take a closer look.

I get what you’re driving at truly but man we do what we can and accept we can’t be perfect. I avoid Amazon as much as I can. I’ve left google, I don’t shop at Walmart. I don’t eat chik fil a. I try to avoid known evil brands where I can knowing I can’t be perfect.

Proton gives me a lot of what I need and is exponentially better/more ethical than major competitors like Google. I am good with computers but not good enough to roll my own entire email/calendar/cloud storage system. We sometimes have to accept compromise or i guess just simply not participate in modern society.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I am good with computers but not good enough to roll my own entire email/calendar/cloud storage system

NextCloud is almost an "out of the box" experience for all of these.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Nextcloud isnt end to end encrypted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Between your machine, and a machine you control, via ssl?

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