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NEW YORK (AP) — John Grisham, Jodi Picoult and George R.R. Martin are among 17 authors suing OpenAI for “systematic theft on a mass scale,” the latest in a wave of legal action by writers concerned that artificial intelligence programs are using their copyrighted works without permission.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (13 children)

From my understanding, unless ChatGPT spits out the copyrighted work, they don’t have a case here.

Using copyrighted works to train an LLM which can then generate similar works seems pretty solidly to be fair use.

I am not a lawyer though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I respectively disagree there. If a writer didn't give any concent whatsoever to give an A.I. a copy of their written works for an A.I. to train or base anything on. I think it's a fair case of theft. Theoretically, someone would be able ask an A.I. to recite an entire book for them. Without ever having to pay its author any contribution.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did the writer give me permission to read their book, which I used to learn to write better and sell those works?

Did Michelangelo give every art student that learned from his works permission to learn from his work and then produce works in a similar style on their own to sell for profit?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is that humans are doing something drastically different from the current generation of AIs. If you tell Dall-e to come up with something influenced by El-Greco Cezanne and Toulouse-Lautrec you always get a generic impressionist painting you don't get Picasso. The "AI"s we have are mapping and transformation tools with a random number generator attached. In a way they are more akin to a DJ remixing a music (which requires permission from the copyright owner) than a musician creating their own song.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

you always get a generic impressionist painting you don't get Picasso

You mean that it’s far more like a human then, since there were hundreds of contemporaries of Picasso who didn’t create cubism?

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