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Norwegian government to set 15-year age limit for using social media (www.euractiv.com)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

That happens, I do enjoy playing with sentence structure, and don't enjoy following the rules of English grammar strictly.

I wanted to say that you are right in this particular case, yes, but you are wrong in your idea that government overreach in Scandinavia is somehow different from it in other places.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Okay, so I never wanted to say that this was unique to Scandinavia. The important part was how we have a a lot of trust based systems (which of course probably exists elsewhere too, but not everywhere) that are really formative for how we make policy and implement it.

This trust should translate to trust to other people, but this has been eroded away for some time because the social contract is being violated.

Most importantly with respect to elf/goblin part: I found that distasteful and resent the implication that I said anything to that degree. I do not think people are fundamentally different, only that the conditions (material basis and social superstructures) that they find themselves in allow for and promotes certain kinds of actions and ways of being.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Most importantly with respect to elf/goblin part: I found that distasteful and resent the implication that I said anything to that degree. I do not think people are fundamentally different, only that the conditions (material basis and social superstructures) that they find themselves in allow for and promotes certain kinds of actions and ways of being.

In Tolkien's lore goblins were made from elves through torture and various degrading conditions and magic.

I agree about trust, but it can't be global, only friend-to-friend, in real life as well.

And trust in government should be taboo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I thought it was Morgoth, a valar and not an elf, who made them. In any case it twists the causal relationship because the goblins subsequently make their own pitiful conditions. I do not condone the terminology even if solely on the basis of how reductionist it is. Since a government is, in its pure form, only a body of people, you can translate trust between people and trust between a government if it is sufficiently representative.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Since a government is, in its pure form, only a body of people,

That implies that logical structure of that body is negligible, if used to transfer human traits to a government.