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US to probe Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving' system after pedestrian killed in low visibility conditions (apnews.com)

submitted 4 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The U.S. government’s road safety agency is again investigating Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” system, this time after getting reports of crashes in low-visibility conditions, including one that killed a pedestrian.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says in documents that it opened the probe on Thursday with the company reporting four crashes after Teslas entered areas of low visibility, including sun glare, fog and airborne dust.

In addition to the pedestrian’s death, another crash involved an injury, the agency said.

Investigators will look into the ability of “Full Self-Driving” to “detect and respond appropriately to reduced roadway visibility conditions, and if so, the contributing circumstances for these crashes.”

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[–] [email protected] 145 points 4 weeks ago (23 children)

Eyes can’t see in low visibility.

musk “we drive with our eyes, cameras are eyes. we dont need LiDAR”

FSD kills someone because of low visibility just like with eyes

musk reaction -

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

What pisses me off about this is that, in conditions of low visibility, the pedestrian can't even hear the damned thing coming.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I hear electric cars all the time, they are not much quieter than an ice car. We don’t need to strap lawn mowers to our cars in the name of safety.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 weeks ago

You can hear them, but manufacturers had to add external speakers to electric cars to make them louder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_vehicle_warning_sounds

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think they are a lot more quiet. I've turned around and seen a car 5 meter away from me, and been surprised. That never happens with fuel cars.

I think if you are young, maybe there isn't a big difference since you have perfect hearing. But middle aged people lose quite a bit of that unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm relatively young and it can still be difficult to hear them especially the ones without a fake engine sound. Add some city noise and they can be completely inaudible.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

'city noise' you mean ICE car noise. We should be trying to reduce noise pollution not compete with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

It's not safe for cars to be totally silent when moving imo since I'd imagine it's more likely to get run over.

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