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The War on Passwords Is One Step Closer to Being Over (www.wired.com)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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“Passkeys,” the secure authentication mechanism built to replace passwords, are getting more portable and easier for organizations to implement thanks to new initiatives the FIDO Alliance announced on Monday.

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 1 month ago (19 children)

If the passkeys aren't managed by your devices fully offline then you're just deeper into being hostage to a corporation.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

The lock-in effect of passkeys is something that this protocol aims to solve though. The “only managed by your device” is what keeps us locked in, if there is no solution to export and import it on another device.

The protocol aims to make it easy to import and export passkeys so you can switch to a different provider. This way you won’t be stuck if you create passkeys e.g. on an Apple device and want to switch to e.g. Bitwarden or an offline password manager like KeyPassXC

The specifications are significant for a few reasons. CXP was created for passkeys and is meant to address a longstanding criticism that passkeys could contribute to user lock-in by making it prohibitively difficult for people to move between operating system vendors and types of devices. […] CXP aims to standardize the technical process for securely transferring them between platforms so users are free […].

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's between platforms though. I like my stuff self-managed. Unless it provenly works with full offline solutions I'll remain sceptical.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like my stuff self-managed.

Bitwarden / Vaultwarden is a popular available working solution for self-hosting and self-managing passkeys (as well as passwords).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TBH I don't see a reason why something as simple as a password manager needs a server, selfhosted or not. I don't get the obsession with syncing everything, so would rather stick with normal KeepassXC.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you never lost your password device (phone, laptop, etc) suddenly and unexpectedly? That's when you really want that file synced somewhere else. But then it's too late. Bonus on many password vault servers is shared folders, so one can share their garage door code with the family but keep the bank account details to oneself.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, but this is very unlikely because I do keep regular backups manually. I just don't feel the need for it to be a constantly-online server.

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