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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Looks like time to find a new browser!

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 month ago (11 children)

May I interest you in browsers based on FireFox?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someone who repackages/patches free software has different incentives than upstream. So generally speaking, derivative browsers are more privacy friendly, have better features, etc.

That's not to say that upstream isn't important. It absolutely is! It's just that derivatives are generally better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've looked at one or two variants but how do I trust them? They are also forked from some previous version so presumably somewhat out of date? And then also it's not clear what they are doing what firefox isn't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Trust is a tough problem when you go deep enough down the IT security rabbit hole. I personally trust software more when it has a public github you can look at and see exactly whats being worked on or added to code base. Generally forks of browsers like Firefox or Chromium like to stay up to date and so are updated within a few days of the new browser release if not shorter. There are some older browsers like palemoon that do their own thing independent of current firefox releases but in general most forks you would want to use are regularly updated and fast.

I like Librewolf. Their website is pretty clear about the differences in goals. Firefox by default has a lot of its security features disabled so to not break website compatability. Not just in regular settings either but the real nitty gritty stuff in the about:config section. Firefox also has sponsorship stuff activated by default so mozilla makes some money. Librewolf has more of these security features enabled and rips the sponsorship stuff out. It also comes preinstalled with UBO.

You can go even further beyond with advanced security profiles like arkenfox's user.js. Remember though theres a trade off you are making between security and convinence. The more locked down your browser the more things are gonna break or more personal inconvinence youll have to deal with. Cookies that last multiple sessions suck for security but damn logging in over and over and over gets annoying. So I've been there, i've done that. The pain in the ass that comes from a super locked down browser wasn't worth it for my threat model.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh I didn't even mean trust as in maliciousness, and not even as in "do they know their shit" but do they have the time and money to do things right? And also do I have time to read and learn what all this is supposed to mean?

And the inconvenience with VPNs alone... What I really want is a kind of universal addon or browser project that just "cleans up most websites". So many websites have bad behavior now and anti-features. I just want to read an article not get a slide in or blinky thing. Internet is becoming unusable even before the dead internet thing. Ironically for such a "website cleanup" you'd probably want advanced AI so Mozilla is probably on the right track.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I see what you mean. The best defense against website crap at the moment is Ublock Origin addon which is why chrome killing it was such a big deal for people. A tool I really like to use when browsing online articles to cut out crap is newswaffle. It gets all the text of the article while cutting out everything else. Its open source and I have had email conversations with the dude who made it hes a great guy. I recommend you check it out if that sounds like something you want in your life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thanks, this gemini protocol looks interesting! This would be an easy protocol for distributed p2p hosting / caching / archiving of websites similar to federalist. I just wish gemtext would support bold and italics and hyperlinks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Vanilla firefox needs to be hardened, either manually or with arkenfox

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

True. But not like stock Firefox is "good" either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Nothing that warrants trying to explain to someone what alternatives to it are or bike shedding about which is the best.

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