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GEICO, the second-largest vehicle insurance underwriter in the US, has decided it will no longer cover Tesla Cybertrucks. The company is terminating current Cybertruck policies and says the truck “doesn’t meet our underwriting guidelines.”

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[–] [email protected] 166 points 1 month ago (60 children)

Pretty sure they were one of the last major companies that would...

Even if warranty pays for repairs to it, if it damages anything else the insurance still has to pay.

The article mentions multiple examples of them just randomly shutting down during operation. That's already bad. But this is going to be it's first winter, it's not surprising insurers don't want to deal with it. They deal with large numbers, it's not a question of "if" like an individual owner, its "when" for the insurer

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Class action lawsuits are gonna be a mother fucker

[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Class action lawsuits are gonna be a mother fucker

Part of the purchase agreement of a Tesla agreeing to binding arbitration. This means no class action suit. You can opt out of this within the first 30 days, but you have to send a letter requesting it.

How many Tesla owners do you think do that?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That assumes the court finds that enforceable. Usually they do, but a few times recently, they've said it's not.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's one of the nice things about the law in Quebec. Binding arbitration clauses are illegal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Je devrais demeneger a Montreal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

*Je does

"doivent" is third-person plural (they, not I)

Oh, and I didn't notice that autocorrect changed my French to English. Should be"dois" or, as you say, "devrais" for the conditional.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Whoops, I really meant "devrais."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I mean in trumps court of law musk can’t lose.

If dumpy wins, for sure no class action.

If dumpy loses, his Supreme Court will still side with the conservative side anyway, so probably still no class action.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

i don't own a tesla, so if their cars injure me I can sue them*

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Steam recently removed their arbitration clause, largely because paying for a thousand arbitration cases is worse than dealing with a class action.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

I’ve heard that death by 1,000 arbitrations is a good way to make em regret it. Glad to see it’s true.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Which is what Musk is looking at happening.

Between cybertruck and twitter, dude’s gonna bankrupt himself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wow, I never thought I'd find an actual good argument for keeping independent car dealers as middlemen instead of allowing first-party sales, but here we are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can you connect the dots for me? Third party dealers always have idemnity? clauses anyways.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Presumably anything you'd agree to while buying from an independent dealer would be between you and the dealer, not you and the manufacturer, right? I don't understand how the manufacturer would be a party to the transaction.

(It might be that I'm naive about how modern car sales work.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m pretty clueless too, but to me your assertion doesn’t hold up to the concept of recalls.

The true answer is probably that we’re both wrong and the answer is that as a consumer: you lose, fuck you. Also fuck your family dog.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

John Wick enters the chat

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

This didn't work for valve so I can see it also going poorly for Tesla.

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