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STOCKHOLM, Sept 25 (Reuters) - Vienna-based advocacy group NOYB on Wednesday said it has filed a complaint with the Austrian data protection authority against Mozilla accusing the Firefox browser maker of tracking user behaviour on websites without consent.

NOYB (None Of Your Business), the digital rights group founded by privacy activist Max Schrems, said Mozilla has enabled a so-called “privacy preserving attribution” feature that turned the browser into a tracking tool for websites without directly telling its users.

Mozilla had defended the feature, saying it wanted to help websites understand how their ads perform without collecting data about individual people. By offering what it called a non-invasive alternative to cross-site tracking, it hoped to significantly reduce collecting individual information.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (6 children)

NOYB would’ve done much better by talking to Mozilla directly and advocating for them to do the right thing going for a legal complaint as the final nuclear option. I

It has been already vastly demonstrated by Mozilla, that going to them and talking to them about how they shouldn't do shitty things doesn't work.

If it takes legal action to even try and save the browser, I'm all for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Okay, but what if after all this legal action Mozilla decides that it's no longer worth serving the privacy conscious crowd? Which browser will you use then?

Things only happen in a desirable direction if there is dialogue. Linus made the decision about making Linux GPL but he is against aggressive enforcement. He thinks it's much smarter to go and slowly convince the offending parties that it's in their benefit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Okay, but what if after all this legal action Mozilla decides that it’s no longer worth serving the privacy conscious crowd? Which browser will you use then?

Firefox.

Just because the execs decide to stop serving the software, doesn't mean the copies (and source code!) already out in the wild will automagickally stop functioning. You'll still be able to visit websites the day after, the month after, the year after... And there's still the devs, since they're not the execs.

By the time there's issues, there'll still be the forks. Someone will have already step up to fork and keep the work on their own, too; the name just weighs enough that someone will want to be "the next Firefox" (not "the next Mozilla"). Or even better, the devs (obvs not the execs) will have jumped ship into any one of the various alternative projects such as ladybird, or might even have started a new project from scratch, hopefully intending for it to be a leaner and better browsr.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This hope just feels like cope to me. Glad you have a positive outlook on life regardless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

No hope, no cope. Just a basic understanding on how the HTTP infrastructure and time dilation work.

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