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The actor told an audience in London that AI was a “burning issue” for actors.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (11 children)

When you steal something the person you stole it from doesn't have it any more. That's why copyright violation is covered by an entirely different set of laws from theft.

This isn't even copying, really, since the end result is not the same as anything in the source material.

Lots of people may want it to be illegal, may want to call it theft, but that won't make it so when they take it to court.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

“When you steal something the person you stole it from doesn't have it any more.”

Idk “identity theft” is a crime but you don’t actually remove the persons identity from them either. And also digital reproduction like in the case of piracy doesn’t remove a copy from the author but that is also illegal and is also considered theft. So I'm not really sure where you’re getting this idea that something isn’t both considered theft and a crime if it doesn't remove a copy from the original owner, there are multiple examples to the contrary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The point is loss. You have to show you were damaged. In this case fry isn't losing anything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He’s losing work and the effectiveness of his strike. Either they want his voice and they’d pay for it if he wasn’t striking, in which case his literal voice is working against his figurative one against his will, or they just need a voice and there was no fucking reason to steal a real person’s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have to prove that in court. And no he's not losing work cuz theres no one paying in the first place. Chatgpt didn't get a job over him. No one said oh we don't need him to do this voice-over we have ai.

Also Remember we are not talking about replicating his voice we are talking about training an AI with it. Technically different subjects.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

He has to prove it in court if he wants accurate compensation, but that’s not really on the table atm.

Did you read the article? I’ll quote the relevant section.

During his speech at CogX Festival on Thursday, Fry played a clip to the audience of an AI system mimicking his voice to narrate a historical documentary.

“I said not one word of that—it was a machine. Yes, it shocked me,” he said. “They used my reading of the seven volumes of the Harry Potter books, and from that dataset an AI of my voice was created, and it made that new narration.”

They are replicating his voice.

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