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Social media platforms like Twitter and Reddit are increasingly infested with bots and fake accounts, leading to significant manipulation of public discourse. These bots don't just annoy users—they skew visibility through vote manipulation. Fake accounts and automated scripts systematically downvote posts opposing certain viewpoints, distorting the content that surfaces and amplifying specific agendas.

Before coming to Lemmy, I was systematically downvoted by bots on Reddit for completely normal comments that were relatively neutral and not controversial​ at all. Seemed to be no pattern in it... One time I commented that my favorite game was WoW, down voted -15 for no apparent reason.

For example, a bot on Twitter using an API call to GPT-4o ran out of funding and started posting their prompts and system information publicly.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/chatgpt-bot-x-russian-campaign-meme/

Example shown here

Bots like these are probably in the tens or hundreds of thousands. They did a huge ban wave of bots on Reddit, and some major top level subreddits were quiet for days because of it. Unbelievable...

How do we even fix this issue or prevent it from affecting Lemmy??

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

A system like that sounds like it could be easily abused/manipulated into creating echo chambers of nothing but agreed-to right-think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

That would be only true if people only marked that they trust people that conform with their worldview.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

which already happens with the stupid up/downvote system.

Where popular things, not right things, frequently get uplifted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, I am on record saying that we should get rid of one-dimensional voting systems so I see your point.

But if anything, there is nothing stopping us from using both metrics (and potentially more) to build our feed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the up/down system is what prompted lots of bots to get created in the first place. because it leads to super easy post manipulation.

Get rid of it and go back to how web forums used to be. No upvotes, No downvotes, no stickers, no coins, no awards. Just the content of your post and nothing more. So people have to actually think and reply, rather than joining the mindless mob and feeling like they did something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

As a forum user I agree, but would like to add that many forums do have a kind of "demerit point" system for incivility. Where racking up enough points gets you temporarily muted or banned.

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